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Old 05-20-2015 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
The transfer of the 700's to PSA is very likely to be slowed. The slowdown should mean we reamain larger and when the 175's begin to arrive it will be replacement hulls so we don't actually shrink like the worst case plan projected. The good news is that since we stop shrinking soon, instead of 12-18 months from now, the upgrades would need to begin sooner, much sooner.

PSA will get to play catch up on their CA staffing issue without parking 700's
Envoy will stop shrinking and begin upgrading in earnest
AAG will keep their planes in the air, instead of parked on the ground

It's a win-win-win for all involved. A fairly rare thing in our industry.

So, Envoy will need to upgrade 270-360 pilots a year (270ish this year, and then 360 next year) just to replace the guys flowing to AA, which does not include guys going to Delta, United, Jetblue and others. Even the protected pilots get upped flow from 35% to 50% of every class. People hired here now, should upgrade sooner, and flow to AA in less than 6 years if AAG's plan works.
Thus far it's working exactly as planned.

Our flow is not dependant on growth like others. When the music stops there (which is getting close) the music will just be picking up here. It's looking like it's a good time to be an Envoy pilot.

Their plan gives Envoy pilots 50% of EVERY new hire class at AA. Lets see anybody else top that.
You quack a lot of certainty in these claims, but I see more salesmanship here than anything. How many F/O's have upgraded so far this year at Envoy ?

I've heard from some very recent flows that so far this year there haven't been many upgrades, so if that is correct and say 250 were to upgrade starting tomorrow, that would mean about 35 F/O's will start upgrading in June and every month thereafter. Can anyone ELSE confirm or deny the above claim ?

Also, how many Envoy pilots are getting 50% of US Airways slots as flow-throughs ?

50% of EVERY new-hire class at AA also doesn't seem to add up to reality. I guess I just hate to see pilots here led down the primrose path by those who have something to be gained by doing so.
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