Originally Posted by
gettinbumped
Well there IS a difference, whether you want to identify it or not. The ORD 747 situation was a base CLOSURE, not a bump. They are different things. If you don't believe so, talk to the #1 777 CAP in SEA. The bumps that followed have so far ALL been on the LUAL side. And you will notice that not ONE TIME did a LUAL pilot come on this board and suggest that the ORD 747 MOU should apply. The hypocrisy you reference would have been an appropriate label if folks had come on this board advocating for 24 months for the DEN and ORD bumps, but NOT for IAH. If you notice, this sounds VERY much like what is being touted by IAH right now.... 24 month grandfather rights ONLY sound like a good idea now that it's happening to them. You can't honestly think that if DEN or ORD council's had advocated for 24 month grandfather rights that Ben wouldn't have been up in arms! I didn't hear a PEEP from the LCAL folks about grandfather rights when it was just LUAL pilots being displaced. I'm truly surprised you can't see how that would be looked at as entitled.
I understand that you don't like Heppner. Fair enough. Every time Pierce or Salley open their mouth I want to vomit. I think it's just the nature of the beast.
How do you know Ben would have been up in arms if DEN came up with this resolution? Do you really believe every displaced LUAL just smiled and couldn't have cared less if his local council was advocating minimizing displacements on his behalf? Of course not. And btw most guys are not on this board anyway so the lack of their gripes on this board does not infer that they are 100% content with their situation.
Yes as union we are looking out for the greater good, but we also have large vested interest in things that greatly impact us individually, nothing at all wrong with that. Do you cry every time someone on the news dies? After all it is someone else's father, mother, daughter, etc. Of course not, unless it was someone close to you. Guys in IAH have different issues than guys in ORD, guys in ORD have different issues than LAX, and so on. Not really a valid argument to say nobody cares until it happens to them.
Originally Posted by
gettinbumped
The good news is that on the line I fly with a nice mix of LUAL, LCAL, and new hires. Almost to a person I find them pleasant and easy to get along with. We go fly our trip and have a good time, regardless of our background. Hopefully that is the norm going forward for all of us.
As I have said several times: to those pilots facing a bump, I truly hope you find a soft landing somewhere. If the momentum keeps going the way it has been recently, hopefully it won't be long before you are back in the seat and domicile you want to be in.
Agree