If the vote has turned to 11-8 in favor of these concessions then it means the MSP FO rep has gone to the majority. I was told by a MEC insider that the swing votes were ATL FO rep DN, the ATL training rep, one other I have forgotten and that the MSP FO rep was a possibility. Evidently at the previous MEC meeting he would not talk to the MSP Capt rep and was asking the ATL reps for "direction"

Before anyone goes off on me I have been and continue to support ALPA. I think we can still make a difference and I will be at the MSP LEC meeting on June 1. However if these concessions are true and we are sent a concessionary TA I will vote NO. If the TA fails memrat I will be willing to work to recall any rep in my LEC who votes for the concessions. If we reach a TA and it passes well than the majority will have spoken.
These are unprecedented times and we all need to be involved.