Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Try again ace. While we line pukes will never see the survey results, our reps and Donutelli have. Both our reps and Donutelli have publicly stated that the pilot survey was clear in that they said do NOT touch profit sharing.
Try again deuce. This line puke is not enthused about PS changes, not in the slightest until I see the increase in contractual value that all the pilots(but even more so in the roughly 30-80% system seniority) have paid for in multiples over the last decade via the structure of the concessionary agreements, prolonged stagnation, repeated furloughs, and frozen miniscule A-plans(or terminated), but I digress. Back on topic: "Publicly stating" and quantification of survey results in a confidential setting are very different things.
The following paragraph is my opinion only, not a declaration of fact:
The "publicly stating" could be myriad of things, but the one I would employ in that position is to make a contractual item appear more valuable than it actually is and increasing it's perceived value at the negotiating table. If it's an item that the pilot group seems to not care about then it's an easier target. If the negotiators present it to the company as one of the holy grail items then it becomes much more difficult and/or expensive to amend. You might do differently in that position.
No more opinion, now to basic economics: Given a static supply of a product, as demand rises, prices will increase.
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Interesting that you're still here working as hard as you can to make the case for giving away profit sharing.
You're not only enthused about it, you're working as hard as you can to make the case for it. It's almost all you've talked about in your 10 posts since you joined 3 days ago.
Interesting how we've gone from Donutelli's "World's Greatest Contract" to this operative describing a "suitable" contract. What a surprise.
Carl
You are very sorely mistaken here. I do not work hard to make a case for anything. You have no context upon which to make a statement like that. You've attempted to reframe a discussion with me when it did not suit your liking. I hope that it is not common behavior that if a poster(I or any other) does not fall in line with a rationale
in toto that one would change the premise of the discussion with an inaccurate framing of the past. That would be manipulative and disingenuous, and I would like to believe you are honest and genuine, but sometimes that energy just gets in the way of staying on topic. I grant you are correct that I am new to this forum so maybe don't know all the history here, but if it is your
modus operandi to alter and distort the past deliberately, do not expect me to cooperate with such malfeasance. I sincerely hope this is not the case.