Originally Posted by
Flamer
With zero leadership from ALPA and folks like you who don't realize they have a stick in their hand when in fact they do, we are in trouble. Why are people like you so intent on taking the first deal, rather than voting no, sending it back, and making a few things better. That is negotiating. All of you first deal takers have destroyed the horsepower of a union, and comments like the one you made about your age make you sound selfish. Which, you have your right to be......but 12,500 selfish individuals does not make a union.
A one time no vote would probably be the healthiest thing that could happen for the entire ALPA/pilot group/MGT relationship.
Flamer, we're not bargaining for a used car. Your strategy of always voting no on the "first" deal is naive. Sending back an agreement between mgmt and the MEC doesn't make things "better", it just rearranges the deck chairs. That is negotiating.
I've seen lots and lots of guys like you. Angry at ALPA. Angry at the company. Angry at everyone who doesn't see the value in a puffed up, testosterone filled, confrontation.
Im tired of that. And you're wrong, it's not healthy for any relationship. Check with your wife or mother in law if you don't believe me.
While you are at it, check with all your fellow pilots with 5 to 10 years left (i.e. most of us) and see how accommodating they are to a long drawn out "horsepower" contest. And check with any former AirTran and Comair pilots about how you can really "show 'em" by being stubborn.
I say all this only because I've seen your kind of
crusading in advanceof the facts before, and I know how it turns out.