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Old 05-24-2015 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Professor
You are making an apples and Ferrari comparison here. Yes both can be red. But the FAR117 loa and a section 6 negotiation are two different animals governed by different rules.

What you are asking for, by asking to peek under the hood, is to negotiate in public. And that fails everyone every time.

And as far as a sales job? I dunno. It seems to me nobody here is going to 'buy' something they don't want to. So why is everyone *****ing about dalpa doing road shows to describe the TA's and what we got so that people can make up their minds?

The language used by you and others play the role off a passive aggressive victim. It's just a contract guys and gals. You aren't being forced into unnatural acts with a goat because your family is being held hostage by the goat liberation army of greater lilliput. It's a yes or no question in the end.

Yes. I like your TA Union of delta pilots. Thank you. I accept that.

Or.

No. No I do not like your TA Union of delta (not my Union) pilots. please refer to this handy manual: 'how to love a goat: baaaaad things and good things to know' and then go get us a better contract.

If you or anyone else would like the TA process changed you need to change ALPA governance first. This is what rules our process.
So we should contact our reps now or sit silently? We elected our reps and filled out the survey so now shut up?

I think we should be involved in this process in every way, publicly and privately, and if something can be altered before it's cast in stone then now is the time to do it. This is part of the TA process: leaks, rumors, closed sessions, letters and calls to reps, and finally a TA. I don't think the TA process included the phrase:
Members are to remain silent until we have a TA because the MEC has double top secret knowledge and we're smarter than you.
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