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Old 05-25-2015 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
So what then are you willing to GIVE UP to get that?

If its from the minority its OK though, right? You paid your dues, so they can eat cake, right? Is that really what you're trying to say because that's exactly how its coming across.

Again, I'm not talking about time value of money and you thinking a nice raise sooner is better than a bigger raise later or maybe never. Fine, I get that. But whatever it is that YOU want, NOW, what are you willing to gut in the current contract, which is already heavily concessionary, to achieve that modest quicker raise for YOU?
I'm willing to give up pay % for other QOL items like more vacation, fully paid medical insurance, better sick leave - like maybe lets tack on some PTO days in there! Retiree healthcare, increases to retirement plans. Any tax advantaged pay like perhaps stock options in lieu of pay. And the sooner, the better. The clock is ticking as you approach retirement age. Which A LOT of us are.

I understand these are all senior "old guy" wishes. Young guys with 25 or 30 years to go just want more money, and they are willing to hold out for it.

Im not talking about gutting anything. I've never really seen a better negotiating environment than we have now. The stockholders, executives, and other employees have been well taken care of. It's our turn now and I think we will do well if we can avoid being too confrontational and greedy.

But some just want a fight. They want payback, vengeance, resentments to settle. They've never seen a better environment than this for that now too. I just think that is foolish.