Ok, let's recall the "experienced" pilots at Delta Connection... I believe it was low time captain/copilot that launched in "the wrong general direction." I've been there... it's pretty obvious when your compass doesn't match up... and double flame-outs happen very rarely... but when they it's typically at high altitudes, in equipment at it's limitations, and with poorly trained pilots. Yes, people will be bending airplanes left and right, now that the minimums are the LOWEST they can possibly be! Just take a look at all the flight instructional accidents that happen in C172's and interpolate a little bit in the CRJ/ERJ and there you have a very uncomfortable feeling. I remember when I refused to sign off a CFI/MEI for his CFII checkride because he couldn't LAND THE STUPID SKYHAWK. Come on!!!!