Originally Posted by baseball

So, this CAL guy on the committee was the village idiot, I mean expert? Great. Thanks ALPA for making sure our ALPA guy was straight laced and squared away. I guess your ALPA assigned lawyer was better than our assigned ALPA lawyer. So much for the tool box.

ALPA told us we wouldn't have to worry about that stuff. The ALPA toolbox would be available to us completely.


You can talk about whatever year you want to. The issue wit Pan Am is this: Pan Am provided UAL pilots a tremendous long term growth benefit and UAL pilots scoffed at it. Clamored about and yelled and screamed. CAL pilots provided you all again with a tremendous benefit, and not only did you scoff at it but took advantage of it to take care of the 1400 unemployed pilots and did so on the backs of fully and gainfully employed pilots who have never lost a day of work.

Sure it's a discussion. Some guy keeps bringing it up. The CAL pilots would have done better on their own without the so-called merger experts that ALPA gave to us and that ALPA dues money paid for. This guy Katz was approved by and paid for by ALPA National. No one told us we were going to get saddled with a dead wood lawyer. We were too trusting in what ALPA told us in 1999 and 2000.


Remember. CAL pilots hired post 1996 never missed a day of work due to furlough. So, it is completely rational for those pilots to feel as though They showed up with a life boat to bail out UAL and instead ALPA takes the life boat, then made them walk the plank while paying for and financing the activities of the merger committee. Then, the award comes out and not only did they walk the plank but got to hold the boat anchor. Now that they are thrown overboard we keep getting gems like BAT bids. So these dudes are in 40 feet of water drowning and we have to deal with profit sharing bafoonery. Last I checked UCH holdings writes the pay checks so if they paid out any moneys they should not have those are the ones that make it right, not CAL pilots.