Originally Posted by
OldFlyGuy
Is the AS agreement out of compliance? I'm not an expert. I may not like it but how is it "abuse?"
The company is not out of (current) agreement with AS. That's because its almost impossible for them to be because its written to insanely liberally (for them). In fact, we are WAY below the level of AS code share abuse that could be happening (and was happening) but that is because Delta's EVP of West Coast Pilot Hiring (Brad Tilden, who ocasionally moonlights as the Alaskan Air Line CEO) has chosen to flip Richard the bird and double dog dare him to do anything about it. But the abuse could continue at any time, at management's discretion…AKA that is a serious lack of job security, which brings us to:
SEA is now a hub for us.
No its not. Read your contract. It is specifically exempt in our current PWA WRT Alaskan Air Line regardless of how big it gets for us. Meaning, at any time, AS could come roaring back and stop or reduce our growth there and there is nothing we can do about it, because SEA is NOT a hub. This needs to change and is a VERY high priority issue.
Its also AS largest hub and corporate headquarters. Its certainly seems convoluted trying to limit each others operations in any agreement.
I don't care about limiting Alaskan Air Line in any market. They can do whatever they want and no one cares. Its what they do within the DL code share agreement that concerns us. They can quadrouple SEA if they want to, I don't care. What I care about is what they can do on behald of DL.
AF/KLM I agree it needs fixing. But I also doubt the non compliance has cost us the bazillion jobs some think. Nevertheless, I expect a penalty and better future enforcement.
Good. I don't think its 5000 jobs either. But its jobs, and we need full and complete restitution now AND going forward. And if half a decade of "our half" being defined as 48.5% then the next half decade can be defined as 51.5% in our favor, and then an even 50/50 after that. Fair enough?
I absolutely disagree with any notion we can function in this world solo.
Agreed. We need JV's and JV's are a reality of the industry. I just want our pilots to be protected with current flying and a fair share of the growth that they generate.
But I don't like that our JV partners always seem to need lots of big metal. And IMO DAL seems content to resell tickets. Eventually if we don't have the metal aren't we marginalized or expendable to the JV? Which puts us... solo. Hmm. UAL and AAL have better Intl venture partners than DAL IMO and it seems to be working to the "metal" benefit of all. I'm concerned about that. A lot. OFG
Agreed. Its contract time in the most favorable time in history. Its time to make gains all across Section 1. It is THE most important issue.