Originally Posted by
Prime
Finally, someone gets it. The guys hired right around bankruptcy really had (have) it rough with all the shrinking. But, with our flow through (which is working, every month) and outside hiring, we will soon be past this period of stagnation.
Rough ? I think that's simply based on myopic expectations. The expectations now of many new-hires (and even those hired as far back as the mid-late 1990's) is to be an airline jet captain within 2-3 years (70-seat state of the art fanjet) out of college, at a major before they are 30 and long-haul International captains by 45. Compare that to the 1980's when to get a slot in a Beech 99 or metroliner it took 2500 hours with 500 multi and you threw bags and if you weren't on with a major (relatively few slots) by your early to mid 30's, you were too old.
I'm sorry, but when you say a pilot in his mid-20's with 2 years in the airline industry as a regional F/O "gets it" (like he has both his company and the industry figured out cold), I just have to shake my head and wince.
Originally Posted by
Prime
I've been ****ed off the last couple of years with what's happened here at eagle, but it's about to get better.
I hope you're right, but so far I can't find where you're getting this supposedly certain information to base your position on. I talk to current Envoy guys all the time and I haven't met a single one within MANY months that had anything positive to say. AAG and Envoy have made no bombshell announcements and haven't run a large upgrade bid or announced massive hiring from what I've heard. Are you sure about this or is this simply hope based on the power of positive thinking ?
Originally Posted by
Prime
Yes, PSA is taking the CRJs with two already up in MQT. But, we are training pilots for the 175 and will be replacing the CRJs with 175s. Really doesn't matter. Our pay rates are the same for FOs regardless of fleet type. Might as well give PSA our old worn out planes and get some brand new ones, right?
Doesn't the FIRST 175 not even go operational until early next year and a year from now only a relative handful will be on line ? Regardless of the entry of the 175, virtually all new-hires now would be slated for a banged-up, tired E-145, so even using the 175 as something to look forward to really isn't applicable to those who are starting out now at Envoy or would be in the near future.
Hey, I applaud you positive attitude, I just hope you're not setting yourself up for a crushing disappointment in the future.