Originally Posted by eaglefly

Rough ? I think that's simply based on myopic expectations. The expectations now of many new-hires (and even those hired as far back as the mid-late 1990's) is to be an airline jet captain within 2-3 years (70-seat state of the art fanjet) out of college, at a major before they are 30 and long-haul International captains by 45. Compare that to the 1980's when to get a slot in a Beech 99 or metroliner it took 2500 hours with 500 multi and you threw bags and if you weren't on with a major (relatively few slots) by your early to mid 30's, you were too old.

I'm sorry, but when you say a pilot in his mid-20's with 2 years in the airline industry as a regional F/O "gets it" (like he has both his company and the industry figured out cold), I just have to shake my head and wince.



I hope you're right, but so far I can't find where you're getting this supposedly certain information to base your position on. I talk to current Envoy guys all the time and I haven't met a single one within MANY months that had anything positive to say. AAG and Envoy have made no bombshell announcements and haven't run a large upgrade bid or announced massive hiring from what I've heard. Are you sure about this or is this simply hope based on the power of positive thinking ?



Doesn't the FIRST 175 not even go operational until early next year and a year from now only a relative handful will be on line ? Regardless of the entry of the 175, virtually all new-hires now would be slated for a banged-up, tired E-145, so even using the 175 as something to look forward to really isn't applicable to those who are starting out now at Envoy or would be in the near future.

Hey, I applaud you positive attitude, I just hope you're not setting yourself up for a crushing disappointment in the future.