Originally Posted by
Skyvector
What would you like to hear, kiddo?
That Envoy has been over 60% of all new hires at AA for the past 2 years? Or how a new hire at Envoy today will upgrade in less than 2.5 years and flow to American within 6? With no interview, unlike PSA where it takes 20 years just to interview.
We have been saying these things not for PSA trolls like you but for new hires trying to decide where to go. But that's fine. Anybody who goes to PSA or anywhere else today will be making a lateral move to Envoy in about 6 months to a year when the PROOF of all we have been saying begins to materialize.
If new hires don't want to listen that's fine..they will waste their time and potential seniority here at Envoy because they were lured to PSA with false promises of PIC time..as if PIC is what is needed to get to mainline these days. FYI: it's not
I think non-Envoy pilots would be smart not to bite at this latest carrot just yet (and if any airline has a history of cultivating enticing carrots to pilots over the last 19 years, it's this one). Again, so far ALL that has occurred regarding the future is PROMISES. Here's some facts;
Envoy has flowed X pilots to AA for the combination of two reasons. First, AA has been hiring (more modestly as of late though) and second, Envoy has been legally REQUIRED to flow the number of pilots it has over the last two years or so as part of the 824 grievance award. If AA is hiring (they are), Envoy management has NO choice to move these pilots to AA. HOWEVER..........once those 824 have flowed (500 or so to go), it becomes more of a contractual flow (the "protected pilots") and then the requirements can be altered or possibly even voided at some point in the future due to any number of scenarios including, but not limited to merger or even liquidation of Envoy.
Soon, it seems obvious that flow-throughs will be standard in the industry as all three legacies will have no choice but to adopt them for competitive reasons to protect their mainline feed.