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Old 05-29-2015 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
The new hire issue you speak of is absolutely the weak link of this chain. There simply aren't enough prospective pilots to cover 50 new hires a month for 6 years to get that most junior guy hired today a seat at AA.

I'm just curious as to how Cujo went from "ALPA facilitating careers elsewhere" to "This is the greatest regional and we will all be AA pilots". Envoy management clearly made a threat against the union to cease the "abandon ship" maneuver or else. Cujo caved and he is now the biggest cheerleader Pedro has.

For anyone considering Envoy look at the actual facts, not a hopeful projection based off ideal circumstances. Envoy is not likely to get the amount of new hires required to cover flow movement over the given time frame, who will flow? The 824 and likely the most senior protected pilots (of which I'm fairly certain is none other than Cujo himself). Look at motivations. Cujo has been threatened by the company and desperately needs the flow to work at least to his seniority level as he is in his late 40s and likely doesn't have any other options.

The regional landscape will change drastically over the next decade, I'm not sure if it will lead to flow agreements, benefit increases, or something not thought of yet. What I do know is that Cujo has led people down this rabbit hole before as "Mason32" and he clearly has ulterior motives.
The flow after the 824 is not predicated upon ever having been a captain. We could shrink this airline right down to 40 E75's and it wouldn't change the fact that retirement based hiring at AA sends every single one of our guys over in under 6 years. Stopping the shrinking just means upgrades and better QOL for all.

Id be more concerned about the reps they aren't trying to intimidate. When was the last time a training center rep got targeted?
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