Originally Posted by shiznit

Wrong, flat out wrong. They don't even admit as much in the op-ed. they use words like "for whatever reason" and "seems". No mention of any "corruption of governance" or like statements. There is a clear mechanism to remedy corruption, and there is a ethical and legal responsibility to take appropriate action to address such activity. Sending an op-ed that throws your NC and MEC under the bus doesn't fit that bill.

Not at all, no one is happy with concessions. Undermining the negotiators doesn't help undo concessions.

It's not the ONLY thing, and save the pilot anger for when it can be leveraged.. The AA pilots were disgruntled all the time and the media, stock market, their own management just ignored them because it was part of the everyday existence. The leverage that the Delta pilots get to exert is that Richard has said "labor risk is off the table", remember? The ability to promise labor risk is a tool for the MEC and NC to use, but they don't get multiple shots once unleashed. It's use should be strategically placed on the table when needed, not thrown around by some local council missive and flushed down the drain.

The timing of it definitely couldn't be worse, right before direct negotiations enter the compensation discussions. If the opposition (management) already knows you are against whatever the NC brings forward, why bother offering anything? When in a business deal, there has to be an expectation that a deal can be reached. Walking in and saying, "No, I won't agree to or listen to anything you say" is not rational or reasonable.


Not naive, just willing to let the guys who helped pave the way for C2K do their thing now that it's their turn.

To use a "Carlism":

You have no way of knowing that. None. You're just a line pilot like the rest of us.

Oddly enough I agree and it applies to you too!

You are so bad at translation Carl. You don't have that right with me.

I think we have an absolutely spectacularly successful PS plan. (hatched and negotiated by the oft reviled Moak, O'Malley, Pinho, etc.) All it shows is that "winding the clock" isn't as economically advantageous as it may seem on the surface.

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