Originally Posted by
PilotCrusader
Not true. I don't call everyone I disagree with kiddo. Take Pagey for example. We argue all the time, but he isn't childish in his arguments and will admit when he is wrong.
I'm less offended by the grandpa comments(I am one after all) than someone constantly wanting to "own my behind(circumventing the censored words system with $ for an s)".
Ok. I have had arguments with you as well, and while some of them were personal in nature I don't remember any personal insults exchanged other than calling me Jerry Glass (which is arguably an insult). But if someone does- matching his level of immaturity seems counterproductive. I don't think FirstClass' choice of words or rhetoric is always smart but it is no reason for talkturkey to request bans just because, for once, the bashing is deflected back to Envoy.
On topic- I would be happy to see Envoy succeed if Envoy let PSA succeed, as opposed to waiting and wishing for its demise around every corner. Perhaps good news in Envoy's future will shift the focus. I would venture to guess that even FirstClass would not wish ill upon Envoy if not provoked.