Originally Posted by
notEnuf
Our fatal flaw: the appearance of memrat. Management knows we are a rubber stamp on the MECs TA. Memrat has never overturned a MEC decision. Some say this is proof of the system, some say this narrows the focus to just 10 votes. I say membership review is never a bad thing prior to really committing to the deal. I think if it’s good enough to cause a vote at the MEC its good enough for the membership to have the language and provide their reps with a direct opinion of the work done. Sadly, this is not our process.
Beware the rush job!
From Contrails 2:
MEC Ratification of the TA is next. Only by approval of the MEC can a TA proceed to MEMRAT. The MEC reviews and considers the terms of the TA for at least seven days (or less if they choose). For the MEC, the direction they gave the negotiators to achieve the TA is the normal standard in assessing its fitness for MEMRAT. During this time the TA is not released to the membership, and if the TA is rejected by the MEC, it is returned to the negotiators without review by the membership. Under our present governance, you will never vote on the merits of an agreement that fails to pass the MEC. If the MEC approves the TA, it will then be sent to the pilot group for review and ratification.
Or less if they choose!
You will never see what or if anything was rejected!
Under our current governance you will never vote on, or see, or give feedback on, or be informed in any way of the merits of an agreement prior to a vote by the MEC.
You the membership will never see language until after it's a TA endorsed by the MEC. Too late to realistically stop. When this vote occurs there needs to be full transparency. Perhaps a release of the negotiating notes is required. Or a change to our governance. For now we can only trust but not verify. You have my trust, but I feel it wasn’t given.
I hope it is earned.
I hope it is earned!
All good points. If this deal get's screwed up, these shortcomings need to be addressed in whatever future organization ends up representing this pilot group.
Another point....and i'll be told by the regime to put on my tin foil hat... without transparency and no way to verify, how do we know DALPA operatives aren't messing with the vote? After all, they have their marching orders. They want it to pass. They want to be able point to the fact it passed as "The majority has spoken" to quiet the heard. How do we know the majority has spoken? How do we know there hasn't been vote tampering? The handful of guys conducting the vote already think they know better than the minions what is good for the minions. There's a real danger here.