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Old 06-03-2015 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
Simmer down, groundskeeper. It's not resignation, it's sincere doubt that any mutually agreed-upon arbitrator would approve a drastic non-monetary remedy. This doubt was probably "learned" while working for a profitable Alaska Air Group (at QX) where a supposedly neutral arbitrator cut the AS pilots' pay 29% by throwing out the SWA 737 rates as an invalid comparison. If you can provide some valid counterexamples perhaps my doubt will be eased.
Really? This is what you said:

Originally Posted by JungleBus
That's the solution we'd like to see but simply not going to happen. So it was always going to come down to money.
That's a whole lot more than expressing doubt.

I'm surprised this would come from a regional guy like you. Pilots like you were here steadily seven years ago slamming pilots like me for giving up scope and imprisoning you to the regionals. Now you're here and explaining away the fact that we refused to fight a scope violation. Not a scope give away, a scope violation.

Originally Posted by JungleBus
Well, that's why I asked the question, I wasn't aware of any history of a system board using such a remedy for a scope violation. If they have, that's great news. Perhaps you could point me to an example?
I can't think of a case in my career where there was a scope violation remedied by money. I'm certainly not privy to all scope violations, but it really doesn't matter. In an arbitration, it only matters what OUR precedent is, and we just set a new one.

Carl
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