That is strange. But the chitchat site is strange, too. A small number of unhinged wackos have hijacked all civilized discussion over there, making it really toxic. Every thread gets run over by the same five DPA guys. There are also some worrisome anonymous accounts over there.

I think that APC has a better chance of hosting an objective exchange of ideas.

Keep it about the issues, we still have to fly with each other.