Originally Posted by Professor

I think that is fair gzsg.

So what is historic? Because that's the definition you are driving a lot of others (especially newer people) to mythologize.

C2K rates...were good, we would agree. Yes?
C2K scope...baaaad. Very bad. Would we agree?
I'll answer for you. Yes. It was worse, but we would probably agree that our JV language could use some firming up. At least I think that.

So 'historic' is a bit of a misnomer. C2K came with big scope concessions. I don't want to exchange that for rates.

But if we have greater than C2K rates (w/o profit sharing factored in) and better scope in this TA: wouldn't that in and of itself be historic?

The quick answer is yes but....

...as we all know the devil is in the details. I'm not voting yea or nay until I see vacation/r&i/ profit sharing and sick leave policy. And minimum month. I like flying as little as possible.