Originally Posted by Timbo

Of course Management has every confidence this will pass. When has our MEC ever said NO to Richard?

When Richard said, "Labor Risk has been taken off the table." That would have been a good time for the MEC Chairman to say, "Not so fast...".

But that's not what happened. Silence implies consent.

Now go back and look at what happened in 2012. Management opened early, dangled a shiny new (used) jet (717) and rushed them into 4, 8.5,3,3 deal, trading profit sharing, but oh... you'll never see those two 3% raises, Richard is going to buy parts of American, or Alaska, or something, and we'll be back in negotiations.

It worked so well in 2012, why wouldn't Management run the exact same play again? They did. And it worked again. And if this p.o.s. passes, we STILL won't be back at 2004 pay rates, in 2019! Never mind inflation for 15 years!

15 years of ongoing concessions, no wonder Delta is making Billions. Some of that money used to be OUR money, in pay rates and retirement funding. And now the MEC wants to trade MORE profit sharing for puny raises?? Are you kidding me?

When we gave concessions in bankruptcy, we didn't give pay OR retirement, we gave BOTH. Now I want BOTH back. Not one or the other, BOTH. The profit sharing is our only hope to putting enough money away to retire on, if we trade it away for 3% pay raises, well, we are idiots.