Management is so wrapped up in the IPO, that they're going to pay when it comes contract time... We'll be 2 contracts behind our closest peer in spirit... Americans new rates are off the charts and deltas new ta will have higher airbus rates than Americans new ones... I understand we'll never make legacy money, but our pay rates should wind up turning out pretty good... They also need to tighten up the contract language a lot and throw in some delicious new nuggets... Management being unwilling to talk or negotiate now only stands to benefit us handsomely down the road