Originally Posted by
FirstClass
I think you are trying to project your own failures as a pilot onto new people. It's more likely that you spent a bunch of money on job fairs over and over and was let down.
Newbies to this industry reading these forums today are already well aware that only very senior envoy pilots will ever flow at envoy, but in order for that to happen they need fresh new sucker pilots to fill that vacuum.
Would you really have all these kids believe that Regional 121 Captain time is not at all important? If Captains are not important, who's going to fly your airplanes?
"sinking in" you say? It's not sinking in, if anything deception is being exposed.
Hey man, I feel for you guys at Envoy, daddy American has dealt you a sh*t hand and they are probably not done yet. You need newbies coming through the door so you guys that have been stuck all these years can flow out of here. But we both know that the new guys are not part of the group that was guaranteed a flow. New guys will only serve the purpose of maintaining the airline during your downsizing as you shrink to 1/2 the size you are today.
Inadvertently he hits some truths, but the error in his beliefs is that Envoy will be the one carrier that is immune from the very truths that are evident in his portrayal of the industry. Pilots will indeed be a "currency" of the future (they are right now) as his beloved Cujo states, but that's not Cujo's revelation, simply an obvious by-product of supply and demand. Envoy WILL shrink and that's confirmed by management by their affirmation they will upgrade only HALF the number of pilots at Envoy vs. those projected to flow. A shrinking carrier cannot support an upgrade mill nor a flow-through scheme and just as he states, one shouldn't fall for the quickie upgrade trap and Envoy's PROJECTION of 2.5 years to captain is just as much an upgrade "trap" as everyone else who makes a "projection" of the future.
By the same token, one shouldn't fall for the "flow-through trap" either as that is a sibling of the upgrade trap, at least presently at Envoy. Piedmont is now hawking their own snake oil, but it hasn't reached the point of being a pyramid scheme whereby some of their pilots go out on a PR tour to lure in the next layer to support the pyramid.....at least not yet. When a valuable commodity goes into play, it will almost certainly be artificially inflated and exploited in the hope of selling it and pilots will soon be no different.
The only fact right now is that Envoy is finally first to something, that being the first to exploit the commodity of the entry-level regional pilot and its prudent for ANY pilot to sit back and think about that BEFORE they choose to become that exploited commodity.