Originally Posted by Maddog Heaven

Ten, I was a yes voter on C2012. So maybe it's my own fault that I'm staring at this nonsensical agreement.

I'm the swing voter that they need to pass this. It's not going to happen this time. The overreach is so dramatic, given the industry environment, that even with corrupt voting, this will fail.

It was said that management made clear that they expected concessions in sick leave. Well, we could have made clear that we expected a 33% raise, effective immediately (33/15.5/8/8).

It's an OPENER. You don't have to GIVE it to them.

We rushed to an agreement on THEIR timeline, not OURS.

Mike D...."We fired all of our bullets..." Really? 6 months before the amendable date?

The big question, though, is WHY?