Originally Posted by Flying Elvis

Let's be honest with the raise. It's 8,-2.25,4,3 compared with the current contract, which already has a 3% raise scheduled for Jan, but not the 1% DC increase in 2017. Is it a good raise? That's up to the individual, but before you go comparing our pay and PS to AA, ask about the value of pensions vs 401k. I'm personally a fan of the latter vs former, but if you run the numbers, you've got to make a 401k pretty huge to have similar value to most DB plans.

The LCA change, as I've previously illustrated, is a huge concession which will impact the QOL and pay of all but the most senior FOs and Capts. It will never be recovered.

JV is being spun as a good deal. Far from it. I just left an airline that was rapidly converting itself into a ticket selling operation for other airlines. That's one of the reasons I left.

Sick call doesn't bug me much, and the banking function is a good deal for a currently healthy guy like me to save time up for a rainy day.

This needs to go back.