For number 2, please see my response to QBall about how pay works out under worst case scenario.

Oh boy, my personal take.

Right now I am a serious fence sitter.

The first thing to come to grips with is the fact that no matter how you slice it, it is more money. It is more money period. For Delta dudes (gender neutral use of dude) it gets us to C2K + a little. No it is not inflation adjusted. For fNWA it gets the highest rates ++inflation. on average the same equipment is their highest rates plus 20% or more.

The question everyone has to ask themselves in this vote is THAT money better than what you think the loss is in changes to sick/LCA are. The JV language is a neutral proposition I feel (not a gain by any stretch).

Keeping in mind that sick leave is still the same amount-wise, just verification has changed. Nobody can tell an individual pilot what that is worth to them, they have to decide as individuals. But to that I will add that the changes to FAA leave and mental health leave are a huge huge gain in sick leave policy.

The LCA thing is a concession. Is it worth more than what is to be gained in this contract over the next three years? I haven't answered that yet. I just don't know.

Again the above are ONLY my personal opinions (aside from the pay thing), so please regard them as such and not the position of your union.