Originally Posted by
Bananie
Well I don't remember every post so I asked you to list all the horribles that you see and you don't and then tell me I have blinders on. I have heard the same warnings of JV's taking all our flying yet international block hours are growing and the widebody fleet is growing. This place always tries to invent the most horrific results and yet they never seem to occur. George was grossly wrong on 2012 so his predictive record does not impress me. The company paid us off for the 4 years they were out of compliance and it's not rational that they would then agree to some metric they can't hit after they paid us off. You wouldn't accept that deal. Taking the LHR stuff out is good because that is a growth market. I looked at the scope compliance stuff on the alpa site and if I knew how to attach it here I would. You can see that international block hours are going up. APC says the sky is falling, at some point you have cried wolf too much.
Okay, here is a partial list which I have posted before:
1. According to Credit Suisse (sp) after pilot contract costs are applied, this TA will put $100 million a year BACK in Deltas pocket when they apply the new profit sharing metric Company wide. This TA will actually ADD to our profit sharing!
it doesn't cost the company one red cent! Which isn't a bad thing but when you look at the whole deal, you have to consider this...
2. Loss if Profit Sharing/buying our own raise along with changing the metric for measuring PTIX. It will lower the payout
3. IMO the company will give another raise to delta employees within the nex 18 months. This should trigger 3.b.4 and provide a 3% (?) raise. Also, the change in how 3.b.4 is calculated makes this clause completely worthless
4. Pulling 75% of the LCA trips out affects not only the 180 claimed by Dalpa but every other FO in the category. Some will be pushed back to reserve. Don't take my word for this. Over on the other forum(where I do not post), a former negotiator said this, not me.
5. More large RJs. I probably could be convinced this isn't a huge bad thing but it is a bad thing.
6. Changing the JV measurement metric. In my book this is a HUGE give back.
7. Sick leave is also a huge give here. Just moving away from the voluntary verification is huge. Allowing the company to question my doctor (who happens to be an AME) is huge. Dr. sure will not be happy about that. When does it stop?
8. New hire freeze to 24 months. Ok, throw them under the bus.
9. On a year to year basis C2015 will be worth less than C2012. What kind of negotiating environment are we in now compared to then?
10. Use sick leave time to determine if you are eligible for a green slip. Fail
11. Did I mention 1.E.9? I'm really not too worried about this one. I don't think any MEC Chairman would be that dumb. But why tempt fate?
12. What is it, ten or fifteen cent raise in per diem by the end of the contract. 15 minutes added to a vacation day and training. Not anywhere near enough.
Okay, here is the list you asked for. tThere are a dozen reasons to say no. Some are big and some are not. In the aggregate this is a NO vote in my book.
Denny