Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Here's the thing. You need a solid retort to flip pilots and even then money is going to trump everything with certain pilots.

They could say as my buddy ran into today on the 320 "I'm old, I can't wait around for pay raises." Well, what about sick leave? Doesn't matter, I'll get a Doctors note. But... doesn't matter... but... doesn't matter... but. And so on.

Basically, if you want this voted down split in two and charge both directions.

Whether you're a Captain or an FO, you can do this. Get your hands on the names of LCA, take the July category wide report for July and scratch off every trip of a LCA. Show that to FOs and at roadshows. If it's as bad as it probably is, it may get some attention. FOs are 53% or so of the pilot group.

Then you go after the JV language. For FOs and Captains dreaming of a WB way of life, show them the data. And it's got to be good data. Stuff the NC/MEC can't debunk. Don't stretch the truth basically or the audience is gone for those pay raises.

If you go DPA, guys will tune out. I wouldn't even go after the company, I mean I fully expect them to want us to fly for free and never be sick. The focus just has to be about the TA and MEC Chairman and NC that agreed to it.