Originally Posted by
Cujo665
Sure, if you're friends & family or a former NASA mission specialist.
Your delusion and yes........more spin. The FACTS prove that historically those hired from the "street" since AA started hiring comprised a wide range of backgrounds including civilian regional F/O's and captains, interns and military, even some corporate.
Your bull**** knows no boundaries.
Originally Posted by
Cujo665
Eaglefly just can't stand the fact that due to the retirements a new guy today should be right where he is in only 6 years since leaving college. While he probably spent 20 or more years to do the same thing. He's a sour person and can't stand seeing somebody get a better life than he had. It's sad really.
It's you who has become sad (and AFAIC, your eventual presence at AA will be a sad day for those of us already here

). I'd love to see most Envoy pilots get here in 6 years and by that time I'll likely be flying with some of them (but, hopefully never with you), but again that is NOT guaranteed as you endlessly parrot on these forums ad nauseum. For the record, even if most of the present junior Envoy F/O's get delayed 10 years (which is unlikely), they'd STILL have faster AA career progression then I did if they are younger than 40 and good for them. I'm happy with my situation in life and at AA and have no regrets or sour grapes and I realize this disappoints you forcing you to fabricate and spin even more. Considering you're 48 and will be flowing fairly soon, you DO realize you're in a riskier boat then me and for that I'm happy too.

If something unforeseen occurs and you end up stagnated at the very bottom or furloughed, don't expect any tears from me.
Originally Posted by
Cujo665
When staffing gets tight AAG will use the flow to attract pilots to their regionals. Sabotaging that flow like Eaglefly suggests would ruin their recruiting tool.
They may indeed attempt to use the flow to attract pilots, but if so, I'm convinced it will be far less successful then they had planned forcing them to try another tack. In fact, I hear that AA street hires may be delayed until Fall to temporarily accelerate Envoy flows to the AA side to right-size Envoy faster and alter the timing of the PPA to coincide with a certain plan they have for Envoy. Sounds like good news for 824 pilots, but it's another example of how things can change quickly and that NOTHING is certain for the future, including the PPA flow or Envoy's present make-up. This may simply be a "test run" to see if giving the impression of having that model really brings in the people they'll need like other regional pilots, military, etc. As for "sabotaging" AAG or Envoy's recruiting tool, that's absurd. I'm simply one opinion on a pilot forum. The only thing I'm doing is countering self-serving bull**** artists like you from deliberately spinning information and providing disinformation in the attempt to misrepresent the situation at Envoy to make up for your own boneheaded moves over the last year or so that got you into the present situation you're in while concurrently greasing your own ride OUT of Envoy leaving those behind you to fend for themselves.
Personally, I think you're the worst union rep in the history of the profession.