Originally Posted by
GoCats67
From what I have seen, the give in the area of Scope is the much bigger deal. While that would take you down to what we have, it looks like a major give to me. To give you an idea of how bad it can be, we currently have a Lufthansa A380 flying LAX-FRA, a 747-800 flying LAX-FRA, and an A340 flying LAX-MUC and we don't have any metal on either of those routes!!!!
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My above statement got me accused of "cherry picking" in a different forum/thread, so here is how the crappy JV/scope language UA has translates into actually flying. These are the flights between UA hubs and LH hubs
LAX - LH a380,748,a340 --------- UA nothing
SFO - LH a380,a340 -------- UA 744, 744
DEN - LH 744 -------- UA nothing
IAH - LH a380 --------- UA 777, 764
ORD - LH a340,748,748 --------- UA 763,777,777
IAD - LH a330,744,748 --------- UA 764,777,777
EWR - LH 748,a340 ---------- UA 777,764
and also Our co-terminals and former hubs
JFK - LH a330,a380,748 ---------- UA nothing
SEA - LH 744 --------- UA nothing
so without even including JFK or SEA they have 25% more flights and if you compare the two based on seats it is closer to 50%!!!
This is why i would suggest to DL pilots that, unless you are already a 777 Captain (who doesn't give a shoot about those junior to him), you should be avoiding this TA like the plague. It is a widebody job killer rivaled only by the ME carriers. Vote NO!!