Originally Posted by
Flightcap
You have a limited contract re-opener in late 2020 (if the airline profile page is correct). Is the flow protected from being one of the items management wants to change at that time?
Anything is negotiable. In reality, Envoy management functions at the direction of AAG and AAG management has several options to modify the present Envoy PPA, inculding several forms of consolidation. That doesn't mean the flow disappears, but it would likely mean dilution for present and future Envoy pilots due to inclusion of other carriers pilots in the flow stream.
Originally Posted by
Foightcap
To make me or any other zero-121 interested, we have to see solid reasons to think a flow is semi-permanent, not just a management plan to downsize Envoy that will become a broken promise once AA likes the size of Envoy's pilot group.
Agreed. AAG needs to make a solid commitment and so far, all that has materialized are projections by Envoy management (and Piedmont for that matter), not AAG. The spin and sales occuring here by a few Envoyeurs doesn't change that (something noticably absent among Piedmont pilots here). You'll note what appears to be occuring now is a horse race among the AA in-house regionals to grab as large a slice of the few pilots out there to support their own operations in the hope of becoming a favored partner.