Originally Posted by
Trip7
Sure I'll share why I'm voting yes.
50 E190s will provide at least 500 mainline jobs at the best 190 pay rates in the world for a unionized airline. that the E190 will replace the MD88 a wild guess and highly unlikely.
It's time for this union to stop using phrases such as "highly unlikely" when describing contract language that "can and WILL". Time and again, the company has shown they will exploit any lose language. When loopholes are left open, history has shown it harms this pilot group. Those high priced lawyers in Herdon have shown an inability to think as many steps ahead as the company. The language needs to be clear and easy to understand/interpret and favorable to our pilots or leave it alone. We are not seeing that here.
Originally Posted by
Trip7
Sick policy. I'm completely fine with the new rule. I don't call in sick unless I'm actually sick so no problem there. If I somehow exceed a threshold I have no problem getting a doctors note or them opening up my medical records to that particular sick call. The notion that the company will will have access to your entire medical history is false. Another internet rumor that's running wild.
Because you say it's so doesn't make it so. We have already had experts who actually deal in this arena tell us it will in fact force us to give access to our medical records to those who have no business digging around in them. Downplaying this serious breach of privacy smacks of selfishness. It is a BFD!!! Additionally, it is not hard to see how this slippery slope quickly turns into pilot pushing. ALPA of all people should not be selling this.
Originally Posted by
Trip7
LCA. Worst concession of the contract. I'll let them have it due to the increased pay and mainline growth. With A321, A330, 737-900, and E190 in 2016, then A350 in 2017. The movement will be epic and unprecedented. I believe it's entirely reasonable to give the company some relief here. Greenslips will still flow. United has a similar LCA deal and there is plenty of premium pay there. The reduction of manning by this concession is more than offset by increase of 500 mainline jobs on the 190.
Epic? Really?! Show me the language that proves any of the above aircraft aren't replacement aircraft. Btw, most of those aircraft (and resulting jobs) you site as growth are already on the books including the A321, A330, 737-900, and A350). It would seem your argument jumps the tracks. Are you DALPA guys capable of making an honest point ever? You dump info with misleading BS and hope it sticks. Anything to change perception and get people to vote yes.
Regarding "no big deal, United is doing it", we've already had some of their pilots chiming in with real world experience of how bad this sucks. They are saying "DO NOT ALLOW THIS CHANGE TO HAPPEN!" I see you quoted the fabled increase of 500 jobs again to make your point. Nobody believes you anymore. Nobody cares about the meager pay increase. Too many bad things in this contract to even consider it. You are welcome to vote yes. I pray that the majority of our pilots are smarter than this and vote no.