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Old 06-16-2015 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
That's just a silly argument. Your boys will hire "professional" hired guns that have no idea what is involved in our day to day life. Even when you explain it to them, they still do not know what it is actually like to live our lives. But then again, they are so much smarter than the average pilot I guess they would get instantly.
First of all, I don't have boys. You're like an old scratched up record that keeps skipping and playing the same tune.

The reason it's important to hire professional negotiators is precisely because of their detachment. You give them your inviolate items and what you must gain, then you turn them loose to do their jobs in an ice cold and completely detached manner. It's the same reason you never use your own staff attorneys to sue or defend yourself in a suit. You hire outside litigators to do that because your own attorneys are too personally attached.

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Our guys hire consultants that understand legal jargon and ramifications and how contractual language works.
The guys we use are the same guys that used to work directly for ALPA. They outsourced those folks now. This is not how you do things if you actually want to win.

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Your guys have no skin in the game because all they would be is mercenaries, and once you pay them, they have not to endure one second of the contract they negotiate.
See above. You're a stuck mic on the frequency and not even listening. They only negotiate what you tell them you must have. Why should they care about living under the contract? They only do what you've asked of them. And they never cry.

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
I prefer the way it's done now. Of course your perspective is that our negotiators are blithering idiots and they sell us down the river for some bizarre reason, (even though THEY live under this contract just like you and I do)
They're not blithering idiots at all. They just signed a TA that did NOT meet the direction of the MEC. Why they did that (again) is unknowable. One other thing tsquare, negotiating is a full time admin position. Many of them are on full time flight pay loss. They don't live under our contract.

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
and nothing they do would satisfy your bloodlust for dALPA's demise anyway, so why do I even bother?
Quite the contrary. I want ALPA to change. I demand they return to their roots as a labor union. I'm using ALL the tools at my disposal to achieve that. Despite the name calling from people like you.

Carl
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