Originally Posted by Professor

The concessions are totally in the eye of the beholder gentlemen. And everyone has their own take. This is all my opinion.

The JV is a giveback for sure. But WB seats are protected globally by our production balance. Plus there is downside protection by going to a block hour ratio. And we remove us UK flying as well.

Then I would also say that OE is a giveback.

Sick is a giveback in verification, but since the benefit hasn't changed in sick leave time, tougher to assess the impact monetarily. But definitely a concession.

Again. My take. Not alpas