Originally Posted by eaglefly

Oh, how you salesman like to slice and dice the facts to get the sale.

That's all I've done........be cynical about the present flow, which you supposedly believe is fine, yet demonstrate you don't by your salesmanship and criticism of that skepticism. Just like a true salesman though. The fact is YOUR ulterior motive is to get pilots to Envoy and clearly NOT to other regionals. It's so obvious, it's become grotesque. Yes, the past flow (Letter 3) WAS indeed designed primarily as furlough protection for junior AA pilots and the arbitration history demonstrates that, but the present flow, especially at Envoy is NOT supported by reasonable foundations that are REQUIRED for it to work as advertised (AKA sold)......at least YET. THAT requires a minimum of TWO commitments that must CONTINUE to function correctly for as long as that flow-through is in place. First, AAG has to commit to it by committing to Envoy/Piedmont/PSA etc. as the sole advertised methodology to get to AA and that is NOT the same as the managements of Envoy/Piedmont/PSA advertising X years to upgrade/flow based on projections which can change overnight. Then, the more difficult (actually almost impossible) of the two commitments requires in Envoy's case the hiring of at least 50 pilots/month to supply the fuel to make that engine run or at the very least a sufficient number of pilots to meet whatever flow AAG requires. If that number goes down monthly, the 2.5 upgrade/6 year flow projection almost certainly slows.

Without those two commitments that must demonstrate themselves to be successful, all that's left are projections and promises, both of which have been made in the past repeatedly at Eagle/Envoy and both of which have always not materialized as advertised (sold). It doesn't matter how many times trolls like you parrot the claims and promises made to you as without those commitments, that's all they will remain.......claims and promises. Demanding or expecting other pilots turn off their thinking caps and become certified morons and just blindly following your begging and pleading isn't doing anything for anyone but yourself.

By your own admission, the world changes and what was then isn't now. Your primary error is not applying those inevitable rules to yourself in that the world can easily change once again at any time and what is now, is not guaranteed to be then and that is the point. No one can promise you a rose garden to play in tomorrow and you can't promise that other pilots that either.