FNG, thank you for a reply that is not dripping with acid. This is the main thing that I wrote about. You just showed that a complaint/comment can be voiced without the reader feeling like they opened a spam email with a virus. Or got maced.

A post like your's above and NoSpin's post about the survey are examples of complaining with a positive twist. You have at least made some attempt to work within the system and to offer solutions to the problems. You are not just writing a post in hopes of getting several additional negative responces so you can all feel miserable together.

What we don't need is a festering boil where everyone adds some new infection to the mix. That is what so many of the threads here are. Several guys posting and feeding on their mutual negativism.

NoSpin managed to point out very clearly without the nastiness the problems at are here with us everyday. I sincerely wish I had read his post before filling in the survey.

So: yes we have a right to complain, but why complain for the sole sake of seeing your complaint on your computer screen?? What is the thrill in seeing several others agree with your complaint?? This is sick.

Yes some, maybe most complaints are valid. What are NOT valid are complaints about base size, expected raises, increased productivity, and expectations not met. We are a flexible company, we have to be, and there have been many times where the company has had to make unpopular decisions in order to keep growing and maintain profitability. If you think moral is bad now, how low do you think it will be and how much griping and complaining will there be if we report several profitless quarters in a row. How about stock prices around $5?? will this make everyone happy?? Nope just more griping feeding upon itself.

Yes: Crew Services is a very big problem, if we could get it fixed then we all would enjoy work much more. Have you volunteered to go into Forest Hills and stay a couple of days and watch and listen to what is going on?? I haven't been to Forest Hills, but I have spent many hours in Crew Services when they were at JFK. The experience gave me a different perspective to my complaints about scheduling.

I agree that there are too many little fiefdoms here, they are inevitable, they are in every organization. And at every organization there are people who strive to create them and those who strive to eliminate them. Life goes on.

You have mentioned pilot[s] plural, that have left, I have only heard rumor of one. This is also inevitable. No one organization is the perfect fit for everyone, but we do a pretty good job of trying to be that place.

What we DO NOT need are negative posts that are negative because of the decisions made by the person posting. What we can accept is recognition that maybe we assumed too much from the info given and jumped to conclusions that didn't pan out. Such as when or if reserve would end for a given seniority number at a given base. Hey I HATE commuting to JFK, but my finacial situation is much better there, so I'm not going to change my base any time soon. My decision, I live with it, and don't ***** about the slow growth at the other bases.

I could post for months about how I hate having to fly weekends if I want productive pairings, how unfair it is that the more senior guys get to fly weekdays only. And how about the seniorty system itself, poor me, I can't get back to back SJU day trips, or even night trips, it's SO UNFAIR. My momma didn't treat me this way!!!???

I too have many complaints, my QOL has gone downhill since D. Bushy arrived, and my income this year will suffer too. His position should have been filled from within the company, not from outside, he claims to be making decisions based on the Values, but I personally believe he cannot assimulate our Values, he has been too deeply immersed in his former company for too long. And the Bonnie Simi mess!! AARGH!!

Lets just try to separate the 'poor me' comments and only work and comment on the posts that have valid issues that can or could be fixed. Expecting the company to add a few more pilots at a base just so #xxx can be a lineholder is not a valid complaint. That is personal 'poor me' whining.

Now for the pay: this is more 'poor me' whining, if you want to make more money, go to a base where you can hold a line, or a better line and use the system, that is why it was created. I can't bid a productive 90 hour line, but I can Flica one, and do it virtually every month, and I often volunteer for IROPs flying. This is the way to make more $$ and help the company. However with every IROPs flight I ask a lot of questions about why and how this pariing or leg needed to be covered. It is pretty amazing what happens to have a pairing appear in open time.

Keep volunteering for postions, be active within the company, not on keyboards complaining. Complaining is not productive.