Originally Posted by
sublime259
Of course you would. I've never seen such biased posts that promote the downfall of another airline then when the two of you have something to say. Your posts are nothing more then outright lies with the intent of stirring the pot. You act like a know-it-all, but in reality have probably been in the industry for a very small amount of time with very little life experience to draw from.
Any argument that either of you ever makes ignore simple facts and numbers yet somehow that is "rational?" Please.
Unfortunately the mods refuse to do anything about the outright lies the two of you tell, which is really doing a disservice to the APC community. Go run back to your little circle jerk at PSA. Newsflash, nobody here likes you or anything you have to say. You're a troll and your personality is very indicative of the typical PSA pilot.
It is THIS poster who not only promotes misinformation, but demands the mods act as his weapon to silence others opinions that he disagrees with and THAT is the real disservice to the members here. This forum is neither a dictatorship for any one member, nor are the mods a weapon in his arsenal to silence dissent.
What I've stated is that basically as it stands now, Envoy cannot support the projections of flow to AA (or the upgrade schedule) without an equal number of new-hires that as of now, have yet to materialize. Today the representatives of the DFW base held a teleconference and the info indicates they basically agree with me. Kudos to them, for at least SOMEONE at Envoy believes something factual should be represented about Envoy's present situation. The information I have essentially stated that;
- In order for the flow to work as projected by Wilson letter, 30-40 new-hires will be required every month, that so far has not happened and that the actual new-hire rate is 25% of that required.
- Of the number originally projected to flow this year, that number will now actually be about 75% of projected or roughly 175 pilots. Next years projection to flow will be about the same and that would equate to about 14.7 pilots/monthly average for the year. That number almost matches EXACTLY with the projection of 14.7 pilots/month Envoy plans to upgrade through the end of next year (18 months). Clearly, these numbers now have ALREADY been diluted from the projections of just weeks ago and this reduced number is STILL based on getting that minimum 30-40 pilots/month in the door as new-hires at Envoy.
This is what I've said all along would be likely to occur.
- Due to AA's deferral of Airbus aircraft, the Envoy option abilities have now fallen to anywhere from 6-20 aircraft depending on other RJ reconfigurations. As of now, AAG has made no announcement of additional E-175 options being converted to firm orders for Envoy.
- Potential good news for present 824 pilots is that they may have access soon to new-hire slots on the US Airways partition, however since no mention of that increasing the flow numbers which have actually now been ratcheted back from that Letter's projections, it is unclear if that means less or no flow to the AA partition. Supposedly there was mention made of possibly making either Envoy or more likely all the WO's as the only pathway to AA by none other than Jerry Glass, but that would require AA approval and that will neither be free to the company, nor cheap. I consider that a long shot unless AAG is willing to pony up and make AA pilots compensation more like that of DAL pilots. As it stands now, AA pilots are angry and frustrated AAG management is dragging their feet on implementing JCBA contractual provisions most beneficial to AA pilots.
So, in a nutshell, most of my assertions appear to have been validated by the DFW representatives and the fact remains that AAG has yet to make concrete, long-term commitments to Envoy pilots to ensure Wilson's projections materialize and Envoy management has yet to demonstrate either the willingness or ability to meet the hiring requirements to make it happen.