Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I thought the same thing initially until I saw Donatelli lose control of himself at the ATL road show. That's not somebody trying to pull off a Jedi mind trick on pilots. That was somebody doing a Frank Lorenzo impression that not even Richard or Ed would have done in front of pilots. Donatelli and the administration is selling this as if their futures depend on it. I'm quite certain, it does.

Your question about why the LCA trip pulls from FO's would be sought given their relatively low savings of money is important, and you really already answered it yourself. It's NOT about money. It's one of three concessions that are really about DIVIDING the pilot group into three tribes. LCA trip pulls makes all FO's angry at all captains for voting YES. The E190 B scale makes E190 pilots angry at every other pilot for voting YES. The Atlantic JV concessions will make pilots who fly Europe angry at everyone else for voting YES.

The Ford & Harrison game of union busting isn't just about saving money. It's about destroying a union from within by pitting groups against themselves. Their premise is that we're totally self-interested and greedy, which makes us incapable of looking out for the group as a whole. It's an easy premise for them to assume because that's the way they behave. The question for us is, are they right about their opinion of us?

Carl