Originally Posted by ghilis101

What I find troubling is the yes voter is 100 percent convinced they either have to take this deal (which even they admit is not really what they wanted) or deal with the NMB. How can you live in such fear? I would have believed this rational in the mid 2000's or even as late as 2012 when everyone was convinced the US was going into a double-dip recession.

But now its 2015, no paranoia, and even with revising estimates downward, all major carriers are expected to make more money than they've ever made. Delta is on pace to make over $6B this year. So what is the fear? We have better profit sharing in the current contract, we have guaranteed industry pay raises if in fact we do get parked (very slim chance of that happening), and we have all the leverage in the world right now.

The likelihood is a counteroffer already exists and is waiting to be executed by management should this TA get voted down. Look back at the sacrifices pilots before you made when they earned major contractual gains they deserved. They didn't get it by taking the first offer, and they didn't get it through fear and self degradation. You are worth more than this. I'll say it again. You are worth more than this. Erase the military training, this isn't "mission" anymore. This is business. You are worth more than this.