Old 06-24-2015 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I hope we can put up as much info as possible, but let's face it: the day belongs to slogans.
No, the day belongs to an administration that totally controls information and fights against the truth getting out. They're running a powerful institutional propaganda campaign and it will be difficult to overcome with the truth.

Originally Posted by Sink r8
You can be the judge as to which slogans are most aggressively presented here.
Great example of administration approved sloganeering right here. Social media is bad and full of lies. MEC administration is the sole source of truth.

Originally Posted by Sink r8
I sort of disagree on abdicating responsibility. If the TA was negotiated in a vacuum, yes. Since there were (I believe) nine meetings to give directions, and the NC was sent back (I'm told) three times to confirm no more funds, and no re-arranging of deck chairs, I think this was all there was to be had.
As you well know, none of that means anything if the NC ignores the direction and SIGNS a TA with management. The NYC captain rep specifically stated that MEC direction to the NC was NOT followed. This makes the rest of your post above meaningless.

Originally Posted by Sink r8
Under that scenario, it would be criminal not to let the pilots determine for themselves whether this was a bluff, and whether it's worth the price of calling it.
I assume you know your use of the word "criminal" is hyperbole. But given the fact that MEC direction was specifically ignored by the NC, the ONLY proper course of action would have been to reject it at the MEC level. Pilots shouldn't be asked to waste their time voting on a product that ignored their own direction.

Carl
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