Originally Posted by
Cujo665
Read the first sentence again.
The QOL here is terrible, and nobody would reccomend it currently. That doesn't change the fact that almost 1/4 of our list is gone to AA in 1.5 years. QOL issues we have here can change anytime management wants to get their head out of their ***. If they want people to come here, they'll fix it. It's their problem to fix. They can have 2,000 pilots acting as recruiters, or acting to send pilots elsewhere. The company needs to choose what message they'd like us to send.
*sigh* Cujo's playing a bit loose and fast with his claims again.
Last I heard, perhaps 470 or so "824" pilots flowed to AA since the initial December 3, 2013 class that had the first "824" pilot in it. As of now Envoy supposedly has approximately 2000 pilots. However, at the beginning of 2014, I believe they were closer to 2500, so the claim 1/4 of Envoy pilots have flowed to 18 months is not accurate. 1/5 or less than 20% would be a more accurate description, which although not bad, must be tempered with the fact that AAG and Envoy are required to flow those pilots per arbitration award so long as AAG is hiring from the street. Apparently, there is a conflict brewing about the definition of "new-hire" and the assertion is that flows from elsewhere are new-hires and require the awarded percentage of Envoy pilots in that case. I happen to agree they are and Envoy pilots deserve that share, but barring a negotiated agreement, I'd expect and arbitration to resolve that or perhaps request for clarification from the arbitrator.
Anyhoo, the QOL at Envoy has been atrocious for months, if not years, yet today's claim from Cujo is that "nobody would recommend it currently", yet just a couple of weeks ago he WAS recommending it and strongly, while reminding me of a crow dinner he'd be serving me shortly in response to my disagreement.
Why do all these flip-flop claims and promises remind me of a guy named mason32 ?