seekingblue, You appear to be new to the industry and whether you intended to be inflammatory or not, you were successful in ****ing on a group of fine professional pilots that had the perseverance to survive incredible odds in order to fight another day. The concessionary contract we are operating under has an early opener in 2016, at which time the Frontier pilots are indeed planning to negotiate the best contract possible. With record profits, it should be one even you can be proud of:/