I've been away from these "discussions" for about a week. Happy to see the same group of guys circle-jerking themselves into a frothing-at-the-mouth frenzy.

Which is exactly why this T/A is going to pass.

First, the naysayers are coming from such an emotional place, there's no upside in disagreeing in person, on the internet, etc. You no voters are hysterical, in both senses of the word. This thread is a case-in-point. It looks like SLC will overwhelmingly pass the T/A, you naysayers rushed to your keyboard to disparage the meeting. Next!

Second, all of the alleged horrible aspects that no voters are screaming about really amount to pretty much nothing for the average pilot. Most do not take the sick leave, LCA, or PS issues personally, nor see them as a loss.

Thirdly, feeling that we could have done much better has a shallow ring to most. Want to recall your rep because he has such a glamorous job? Then I propose that you offer to take his place, Einstein. After all, you guys are so much more knowledgeable and smart. But seriously, most thinking pilots see that if this is voted down, and we take serious hits to everything, those who opposed it most loudly will walk away in silent anonymity and not really be accountable for anything. Oops!

I'm finding there's a silent majority. Yes, the minority is loud, but has absolutely nothing to offer. Zero, zilch, nada. Given the outright emotional nature and knee-jerk disposition of the vehement NO voter, I think we have a pretty good indication of how the vote will go based on the number of NO votes on the DPA exit poll. That's it, folks. The total number of no votes, I'll even raise it 50% in the spirit of being a good sport. Don't forget to Vote!