Old 07-04-2015, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets View Post
That's all true. But the other big issue here that people conveniently ignore is the punitive stance this company memo outlines. Does no one have a problem with it? To me it speaks volumes of the safety culture.

The company has been quite quite reasonable and non-punitive in their efforts to resolve this to date. The FAA has clearly expressed a desire to exclude these events from asap. They already have excluded events where the proper recovery procedure is not applied, on the basis that while the original mistake may been "honest" an attempt to linger at altitude in an unsafe fashion so as to cover up what happened is now an intentional violation.
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