Old 07-04-2015 | 11:57 AM
  #120  
rickair7777's Avatar
rickair7777
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 45,144
Likes: 802
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by Nevets
I'm talking about the letter itself! To me, it's very chilling when they say you will be strictly monitored by occ and the FAA. That is what is punitive! I wasn't even talking about what's actually happening behind the scenes. And speaking of which, what about the list of inattentives? That by itself instills an unjust culture.
Te FAA is monitoring regardless. Under these circumstances the company needs to monitor as well.

Originally Posted by Nevets
And I wasn't talking about the FAA either. But now that you mentioned the ASAP thing, how would they even know that there was an attempt to linger at altitude in an unsafe fashion? I'm probably not understanding the whole concept of what's actually happened in these events.
Umm the FAA is on the ASAP committee and they get a vote? They get to see what people submit as asap reports and have gotten to point where they are no longer willing to grant blanket immunity.

Hypothetical example:

1) Honest mistake: Got distracted (possibly for understandable reasons) and got too slow to power out of it.

2) Cover up: Didn't request lower, milked it down a few hundred feet (in RVSM) trying to power out eventually got shaker maybe pusher

Can't say as I blame the FAA for having lost all tolerance for 2).
Reply