Originally Posted by
Herkflyr
And yet we have other posts that state there is no OE going on at all in the A320 category. Are you saying that the company will still withhold 75 % of LCA trips. I really doubt that
I'm saying they can up to the block hour limit imposed by pilots completing sim training. The TA language doesn't include any restrictions except for block hours based on training and the 75%. All the rest of the talk about in-base only is just talk; it's not in the TA.
Show me in the paragraph below where it says the company may not designate every LCA-awarded trip as OE. It's only restricted by the block hour table based on how many pilots will complete their sim training. The 75% doesn't come into play until after the PBS F/O bids are run. Once the last F/O LCA-designated trip hits the 25% of block hours, the remaining LCA-designated trips are withheld.
Here's 23.D.X.
The Company will designate rotations that have been awarded to Line Check Pilots that contain the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator training in the bid period. Following the award of rotations to First Officers that contain at least 25% of the projected OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator training in the bid period, the Company may withhold from awarding to First Officers the remainder of such designated rotations. The projection of OE/TOE block hours for the pilots expected to complete simulator training in the bid period will be calculated as follows:
a. 15 block hours for each transitioning narrowbody Captain or First Officer
b. 25 block hours for each first time narrowbody Captain
c. 40 block hours for each new hire in a narrowbody category
d. 50 block hours for each transitioning First Officer from a narrowbody category to a
widebody category
e. 60 block hours for each first time Captain transitioning from a narrowbody category
to a widebody category
f. 75 block hours for each new hire in widebody category
Read the actual TA language: page 23-10, section 23.D.X. None of the "in-base only" and "only suitable for OE"
is in the language. My rep says that language is in the negotiators' notes, "Trust us." Well, I don't.
Bottom line: the company can designate all the LCA trips up to 100% of OE block hours allowed by the above chart. The 75% is determined by the last F/O to be awarded one of those LCA-designated trips via PBS that hits the 25% threshold.