Originally Posted by
daOldMan
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't they need to hire several hundred FO's very quickly to allow for a new hire to upgrade in the next 2 years? Can the training department handle 200 a year? To get that kind of growth, classes would have to have nearly 20-25 people per month in them (to account for FO attrition at the bottom and people washing out). Are there enough lines to get that many people through IOE? If so, what happens to all of the FO's that are not flying because all of the lines are going to guys in IOE? It will take over 2 years just to get 1000 hours. How many sims do you have full time? If it is less than 3 (more likely 4 incase of a breakdown), there is absolutely no way that you can train that many people that quickly.
Look at the other airlines that are growing and experiencing problems. What is currently in place to ensure that those don't happen at PDT?
Has anyone that believes that the upgrades will really be that quick looked at the numbers? Be realistic, the only way that growth can happen that quickly, as well as flow to take that many senior people out, is for there to be a steady stream of new people coming in the bottom. Until that is happening, you should not believe that there will be quick upgrades and growth.
At any airline (unless there are street captains or bypassing seniority), you don't upgrade until you are 50% on the seniority list. How long will it take to get to 50% on the list with only 50-60 new hires in 7 months? If there is growth and the increased attrition with the "flow", there needs to be LOTS of new hires.
You're 100% correct, growth at pdt is depended on the amount of new hires (true to any airlines) I'm not in MGT, not my job to worry about all the plans, all I do is get my passengers from point A to point B.
Here are a few facts currently happening at PDT
1. Upgrades are around 2 years with just the Dash
2. Flow to AAG
3. 145 training are happening now for our instructors
4. New president appointed by AAG
We currently have around 380 pilot on property, this must be taken into account for any potential new hires. If we see any growth, just think about the potential gains.