Originally Posted by
labbats
I think your numbers include flows. For off the street hires it is indeed a military pilot's game at all the majors. Break down any newhire class at Delta, AA, United and Southwest in the last two years and remove flows and interns and you sure won't see half civilian. One exception is/was USAir.
I also disagree that this thread serves no point. I'd argue that this thread is exactly why this website was created. Seems everyone in the industry knows about Allegiant and its woes due to this very thread.
Flows are a small percentage of new hires. Again, the stats have been posted monthly by Delta MEC and it shows 47% mil I believe. I'll grab June's report and post it. United recently went through a bout of a specific person intentionally weeding out mil applicants to prevent them from getting a call. Plus, you can't start breaking down the civilian portion and say that they have been primarily flows or interns. Same is true for mil guys. Most have been fighter types and squadron operations officers, squadron commanders etc. The more you worry about who got hired is less time spent making yourself more marketable.
Everyone knows what Allegiants problems are, even the completely exaggerated ones on here. Saying new hires are hurting the cause is no different than saying senior captains staying are hurting it also. "We're fighting the good fight," they will say. Bull****, they are making over $100k a year and are home every night and have gotten comfortable and don't want to move on. No different than the regional capts. Strike, leave or ****. Until then I would suggest to not expect someone to do something you won't. Sorry but I'm just getting tired of reading so many threads of pilots non stop *****ing.