Originally Posted by
G4er
So I ask someone to take their own advice....
I didn't see you call out the person who said the pilot group will give new hires a cold shoulder. I did.
I came from a regional and it was the best thing I ever did. My wife loves that I am home every night. If you move to where you are based, life is good. Yes, this place sucks for commuters.
I realize that some people like to go on the web boards and have some delusion that if they spew forth stuff that they do not even believe that they will be able to dry up the applicants and that will somehow get us a contract sooner.
How about doing this.. Post the stuff that is real (unreliable aircraft, no work rules, TDYing, no contract, poor mx etc)
But don't post stuff that in bs
We are going to keep filling our classes anyway so you do not have to lie to the potential new hires that are reading the post.
Wow....that didn't take long to respond. Something I said must have hit home.
First, I too came from a regional and was very happy when I first hired. I was home every night with lots of time off. Now...I routinely work stretches of 13 out of 15 days and a stretch of 3 days off is a rarity. My wife was happy at first, but now she has given me her 100% support to seek employment elsewhere. A three or four day trip with a stretch of days off after sounds like a dream to us now. You are going to ask if I have applied to a regional and the answer is no. I am not going to go from my current pay rate to minimum wage again. Would I recommend a regional pilot to come here? Not if they can help it. You will call it hypocritical, but it really is comparing apples to oranges. I am working hard to get a phone call from one of the legacies and a couple of other places.
Second, I have addressed the real concerns in this thread in previous posts, just like I did last night. If you think that a system CP that routinely drops F bombs in front of recurrent classes and refuses to address safety concerns isn't a valid issue I think you are wrong. It demonstrates the hostile and unprofessional management mentality that trickles down from the top. I noticed you just glossed over that and didn't address that in your response. You just called it BS. Why is that? Truth hurt? We both know the example I mentioned in my post last night is spot on and there are literally hundreds of pilots that have seen this first hand.
This place has serious issues with mx, TDY and a lack of work rules. Those have been hammered out over the last 300+ pages. I'd suggest you'd go back and read those. I noticed you just started posting recently. Some classes are getting filled but I do know for a fact that a class a few months ago only had 16 people show up and 28 were invited. Keep your head in the sand and don't listen to your troops and everything will always be right in your world. I have had friends from my previous carrier that were invited to interviews and decided not to go because of this thread. It is scaring away some of the most talented in the industry.