Originally Posted by
TSRAGR
Not a faip, my other flying is self explanatory, all single seat, all PIC. The above example is just a breakout from airline apps. They want IP removed from PIC (I don't know why) So I just took my PIC time, minus my IP time and placed that in the column, in reality I've logged 865 PIC with 799 of that being IP (in the -38).
With 2 IPs in a jet vs/ a student in another jet, whomever was in the front was the PIC, but both dudes would split IP time. Hence it was common to log something like this: Total 1.0, PIC 1.0, IP .5. or if in the rear-cockpit and not PIC, Total 1.0, IP .5, other .5 (with no PIC). I think these two areas are the places where something is wrong, but I'm on my third look now and still can't find a problem.
I think the fact that you're splitting IP time when you're in the back seat is going to create issues. That just seems a little strange. One student and two IPs? That may be the way your unit decided to do things, but that's internal USAF stuff. Airlines aren't going to "get" that. You're really going to muddy the waters if you try to incorporate that into your times.
If I were interviewing you and we started discussing this situation, as a former USAF pilot, I think I'd have some pretty pointed questions.
-How do you stop and start instructing on a sortie?
-Who briefed/debriefed the student?
-Could the pilot in the front seat have briefed, flown the entire mission, instructed the student, debriefed with an empty backseat? (i.e. were you a required crewmember back there?)
If you log a 1.0 of PIC from the front seat and .5 of IP time, are you putting that .5 into the airline app as IP time? If so, then I think you're setting yourself up for some hard questions in the interview because you're counting that .5 twice.
I'm not an expert on the whole airline app thing, but if they're asking you to break out IP time from PIC time, it's probably because they naturally assume you're instructing a student with you in your aircraft. So, they want to know when you're flying a jet as PIC and when you're riding in back watching a student in the front. Either way, you're the PIC and I'll bet they add those two numbers together to get a real PIC total.
Personally, I think you'd have a hard time explaining to an airline how you're logging IP hours from the back of a T-38 with another fully qualified IP in the front seat who signs for the jet and logs the entire flight as PIC.